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- In article <airliners.1992.32@ohare.Chicago.COM> kls@ohare.Chicago.COM (Karl Swartz) writes:
- >In article <airliners.1992.30@ohare.Chicago.COM> weiss@curtiss.SEAS.UCLA.EDU (Michael Weiss) writes:
- >>I have a hard time believing that an intact hydraulic system would have
- >>prevented AA191 from crashing. Let's face it, a wing-mounted engine falling
- >>off produces such a rediculous unbalance that even full aileron wouldn't be
- >>able to counter it.
- >
- >I don't see that ailerons have much to do with it -- the biggest
- >effect would be a substantial yaw, which would require rudder input.
-
- In the NTSB report on the DC-10 crash, a considerable amount of both yaw
- and rudder were necessary to regain level flight, in the simulator tests--
- 80% right rudder and 70% right-wing-down aileron; roll angles didn't
- exceed 30 degrees before recovery.
-
- Normally, given asymmetric thrust, you bank into the good engine(s): rudder's
- normally used to augment the ailerons as necessary to control sideslip.
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- >Having lots of altitude and airspeed to work with is certainly quite
- >helpful, but isn't a requirement. A few years ago a Piedmont 737-200
- >lost #2 immediately after takeoff from O'Hare. The pilots promptly
- >declared an emergency, turned around, and landed several minutes later
- >on another runway. They didn't even realize that the engine had
- >litterally fallen off until the got off he plane and looked.
-
- There are actually two issues at work, here: one is the *power* lost by
- the engine. To maintain level flight, the power required for flight must
- equal the power available. If the power available is less, one will start
- to descend; if it's a lot less, one will descend faster. The real issue is
- just power: it has little to do with where the failure was: losing two
- of three engines on a 727 at MTOW means you'll go down, too.
-
- The second issue is the moment produced by the combination of the "dead"
- engine (with its drag) and the "good" engines. This is generally a minimal
- issue, assuming the airspeed is there, and the pilot applies correct
- technique. Most transport aircraft can fly with all engines out on one side,
- although I do not know if this is an explicit regulatory requirement. As
- long as the inherent longitudinal stability of the airplane (contributed
- by the vertical stabilizer, rudder, wings, and fuselage) is sufficient to
- overcome the yawing moment, the airplane can be controlled. So *correcting*
- for a lost engine is a near-instantaneous correction, applied by the pilot,
- needing no altitude reserve.
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-
- During the El Al discussion on sci.aero, rec.av, and rec.travel.air, there
- seemed to be considerable confusion between the role each factor took.
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- Robert Dorsett
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